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都说ATC是典型的监听音箱.那么想必有一些录音室或者是STUDIO在使用了?
谁能给俺举一些例子,看到底哪里在用ATC做监听?
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(作者:chichi 时间:2002-03-16 22:17:17)- http://www.studio-sound.com/archive/nov00/soundings3.html
Decca Recording Centre in North-West London......... B&W 801/802 monitoring and ......
The monitoring will remain the same, as in B&W 801 and 802s, but will upgrade to surround.
Not exclusively; the rooms are being designed for acoustic music, so that could include acoustic pop and jazz. And the picture work will include TV soundtracks, for example, which can be in any style.
看来801在DECCA手里是全能的.什么题材都能用.嘿嘿.- http://www.studio-sound.com/archive/nov00/soundings3.html
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(作者:YGR 时间:2002-03-16 22:39:19)·
(作者:chichi 时间:2002-03-16 22:58:55)- 都是电台电视台什么的.甚至剧院也好意思搬上来.
就EMI沾个大录音公司的边.
看看这里:
http://www.meyersound.com/news/2000/x10-europedebut_300.htm
还有那么多大的录音公司呢.还有好来污呢.都在用什么?·
(作者:chichi 时间:2002-03-16 23:05:30)- 比如:
http://www.planetpoint.com/bongobobmusic/bongobobbio.html
看看他们的业务范围吧.
这里有全美国RECORDING STUDIOS 的名单.
http://www.1212.com/rec/usa/
先关心关心他们在用什么吧.·
(作者:chichi 时间:2002-03-16 23:17:44)- http://www.darkhorserecording.com/
他们的近场监听是:
Genelec 1031 - NS-10 - Mackie HR 824 - Auratones Truth Audio Monitors
- http://www.darkhorserecording.com/
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(作者:chichi 时间:2002-03-16 23:40:39)- 而一个小小的Bongo Bob Music工作室,就有以下客户:
AirTouch, NBC, IMAX, Amtrak, Disney, Warner Bros, Beverly Hills 90210, NBA Golden State Warriors, Sacramento Kings and the WWF, Taco Bell, Chiquita Banana, AT&T, Cellular One, Apple Computers, Marie Callendar, Duraflame, SONY, Healthy Families, CCPOA, Duraflame, Howard Hughes Corporation, PBS, BBC, NBC Sports
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业务伙伴:
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比起来,ATC的影响好象小了点......嘿嘿嘿- 而一个小小的Bongo Bob Music工作室,就有以下客户:
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- 都是电台电视台什么的.甚至剧院也好意思搬上来.
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(作者:llm 时间:2002-03-17 18:27:48)·
(作者:烧录一族 时间:2002-03-17 21:36:44)- 上ATC网站看看不就知道了!
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(作者:chichi 时间:2002-03-17 21:58:26)- 可是,这ATC的网站有点难找.
比如用ATC,SCM10,SCM20在GOOGLE上,就找不到ATC的网站.
再用ATC,MONITOR在YAHOO上查,结果给出来了个错误地址.
把错误地址只留下域名.这回行了.
http://www.atc.gb.net/
这就是ATC的厂家网站了.
看域名,不太象商业网站.呵呵.先不管它.
看看内容再说吧.- 可是,这ATC的网站有点难找.
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(作者:llm 时间:2002-03-17 22:21:52)
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喇叭。唯一的曲点是价格太高,前后级的价不是一般老百姓能买得起的,但?淦婀?据我兄弟的同学说MCINTOSH在美国不是很出名,在日本名气很大,而在美国向代理买到2W美金的器材商家才肯打97折,美国佬真是美国佬,宁可去日本买,听他说比香港价格好,我也用MCINTOSH,跟在他后面,否则不吃饭也买不起,好得此种东西好几年不会出问题.- 我最佩服MCINTOSH的是她的面板及旋钮设计几十年不变,而现今21世纪眼光看还是那么诱人,晚上在昏暗的灯光下
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(作者:网管 时间:2005-02-26 23:51:41)- 还没有褒熟,很爆得,较好推.但是高频目前还不细致.具体看二手器材的搭配栏目我的心得.
DU6i没有推过.copland前后一套已经很满意.
不过目前暂时不出,我在精心调整中.等丹拿的1.3MKII或1.3Se比较一下.
丹拿1.3MKII和1.3SE也是这样的,不过不知道6i可否推好它.我的房间小,对推尽倒不是很在意.
反正最后两对留一对玩而已.- 还没有褒熟,很爆得,较好推.但是高频目前还不细致.具体看二手器材的搭配栏目我的心得.
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 00:29:56)- 其实本人一直在关注SEK箱,就怕DU6I搞不掂那8545单元,同时也十分钟意SEK S15的ETON单元,如果网管兄试过DU6I能推好你的那对,到时你转让时我会第一时间考虑的。
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 12:13:49)- 其实我觉得DU6I不知该推什么类别的箱子好,听说推丹拿的不错,但我喜欢ETON+SCAN单元的组合,看来只好上SEK S15了。司夺达的低音较模糊,我不太喜欢。
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 17:56:49)- 枫叶之声FS68确实是一对好箱,前段时间阿海处出了一对,但本人未能赶上,只好次而求之了。同时你能告诉我那里有枫叶之声或瑞宝的二手箱吗?如没有只好上SEK S15了。
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 21:54:33)- 科宝DU6I购于今年元旦后,刚开始时觉得高音区有点飘,但低音下潜力惊人,弹跳力十足,心中着实好兴奋。但经过近二十天的煲机,坏事了!低音一下子变得紧,放什么类别的音乐低音都是硬崩崩的。曾搭配过PROAC 2000S版声音好惨,根本听不下去。以为再煲声音会变好,但一直到现在未见好转强烈郁闷中。其实除中意SCAN+ETON单元的组合外,其他凡是DU6I能推好的都喜欢。坛上的那对瑞宝也已有人订走了。在此谢谢各位了,希望继续能得到你们的帮助!谢谢!
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 22:08:08)- 本人所用的DU6I为升级(电容为MIT RTX+MMFX的那版),前级四个小管6N8P、6N9P也换成了RCA的VT229和美国西屋公司方环的6SN7GT,换管和煲机后高音收得好,不文不火泛声也丰富,只是低音没有了当初下潜深富有弹跳力的那种活力。希望现在玩DU6I的同好也说说你们的感觉和搭配,以免得本人再走冤枉路和花冤枉钱。谢谢!
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 22:28:28)·
(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 23:07:48)- 所换的两对小管全都是配对的,而且换上原管也是一样的效果,看来只有调大管(6550EH)的偏压罗?
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-27 23:26:58)- 同时出现低声紧没有了刚开始时的弹跳力并不是换小管之后出现的,而是在换小管前的5天就出现了这个现象,刚才我量了一下各大管的偏压,其中:V1 0.22V V2 0.44V V3 0.22V V4 0.44V,与刚买机回来时量得的是一样的,难道说各管的这个偏压是不正确或是别的?按理说.....真是烧糊了!
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(作者:louieli 时间:2005-02-28 13:34:51)- 烧兄,你好,你的情况和我差不多,我也将前级换成RCA T229和RCA 6sn7gt,我的JBL4425的低音立马紧缩,但高音表现不俗.另外问一下,换机内的电容,声音变化大不大,具体表现在什么方面,谢谢.
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-02-28 15:20:34)- 其实出现低音紧的情况是与换前面的小管没有什么关系的,我也认真想了一下,该是调节大管偏压的时候了,因为随着机子的不断热身,机内的各元件发生了改变,以致于某些参数会与原设计有出入,因此才会出现这样的状况.升级版无论是高音的舒展延伸和低音的下潜弹跳力都比原装版要好,现在我还想再次升级呢(换用M-CAP银膜电容),可一换机内的电容又得作废了,还不如把米放在其他方面呢.现在出现这样的情况,我心里也是很不舒服的,想调偏压但没高人指点又怕调出了毛病,正强烈郁闷中.希望多交流.
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-03-01 21:40:43)- 我的科宝里面的电容是:前面连四个小管的是MIT RTX 0.22U/400V的,连6550EH(电路板上的)是MIT PPMFX 0.33U/600V的,如果我再升级是升后面的四只电容,到时只能是转让这四个电容而已,如果楼上的DU6I用家还有兴趣就开个价。
同时再回出让瑞宝箱的朋友,现在我已订购了一对城堡候活S3落地箱,如未能交易我会尽快与你联系的,在此谢过!- 我的科宝里面的电容是:前面连四个小管的是MIT RTX 0.22U/400V的,连6550EH(电路板上的)是MIT PPMFX 0.33U/600V的,如果我再升级是升后面的四只电容,到时只能是转让这四个电容而已,如果楼上的DU6I用家还有兴趣就开个价。
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-03-02 15:51:56)- 本来本人今年6月底要入住新房(137平米),要把原器材都换掉,因此才上了科宝DU6I,昨晚又预订了城堡候活S3,今天兴冲冲地去实地考察新房(在建中),又打来图纸一看,晕了!客厅连饭厅倒是有三十八平米,但隔成的专门听音室的面积仅有18平米左右,而且还是4米2乘4米2的正方形!(问过开发商,能否减少一个房间把客厅面积扩大?开发商答日:没门!中间隔墙是承重墙!房子倒了你负责!)他NND的!当初购房全权委托LP大人去办理(LP大人说专门隔成的听音室至少有二十五个平米的长方形听音面积),真是坏事了,还发烧个屁呀!本人真的欲哭无泪,无奈中取消了订购的箱子,而且DU6I也第一时间有人订货,看样子家中的那些破烂器材也要上网吆喝着卖掉算了,家中三百多盘的CD呀!想想烧了十六年,却落个如此的结局,真是烦透了!!!
在此谢谢坛上各位朋友给予本人的指点和帮助,祝你们都烧得愉快!
再次感谢!- 本来本人今年6月底要入住新房(137平米),要把原器材都换掉,因此才上了科宝DU6I,昨晚又预订了城堡候活S3,今天兴冲冲地去实地考察新房(在建中),又打来图纸一看,晕了!客厅连饭厅倒是有三十八平米,但隔成的专门听音室的面积仅有18平米左右,而且还是4米2乘4米2的正方形!(问过开发商,能否减少一个房间把客厅面积扩大?开发商答日:没门!中间隔墙是承重墙!房子倒了你负责!)他NND的!当初购房全权委托LP大人去办理(LP大人说专门隔成的听音室至少有二十五个平米的长方形听音面积),真是坏事了,还发烧个屁呀!本人真的欲哭无泪,无奈中取消了订购的箱子,而且DU6I也第一时间有人订货,看样子家中的那些破烂器材也要上网吆喝着卖掉算了,家中三百多盘的CD呀!想想烧了十六年,却落个如此的结局,真是烦透了!!!
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(作者:烧糊了 时间:2005-03-03 08:14:27)- 昨天一直没心情,昨晚也喝了一晚的闷酒,郁闷呀!老实讲昨天一天没开机贼难受,但一想到以后的听音环境,唉...不说也罢.看来得认真考虑考虑了.
真是非常感谢坛上的各位朋友!- 昨天一直没心情,昨晚也喝了一晚的闷酒,郁闷呀!老实讲昨天一天没开机贼难受,但一想到以后的听音环境,唉...不说也罢.看来得认真考虑考虑了.
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(作者:壮家汉 时间:2007-06-06 09:54:47)- 现在烧糊了兄的系统在新房内渐入佳境,可以令主人舒舒服服地叹世界了。
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(作者:斑蝥 时间:2005-03-27 14:32:36)
日本台湾那么多玩天朗的用电子管,至少也代表一种玩法,或者一种流派。倒不是他们的水平就比这里的DX高多少,用胆机有胆机的道理,用石机有石机的理由,不必要统一到一种方案、一种玩法上来。
感觉有这样一种倾向:大陆玩家总喜欢追求绝对意义上的全面,既想天朗流淌出浓郁的音乐味,也想榨出天朗全部的气势和能量,熊掌和鱼,兼而得之。所以竭尽全力上大功率的前后级石机。而海外的玩家呢,好象对天朗的要求没有那么高,更喜欢扬长避短,多数是一门心思追求老天朗大箱子的韵味和气质,所谓“玩味儿”。所以他们更喜欢用高素质的胆机,甚至认为用300B搭配西敏士也算正宗。
这不是,从前面的讨论中也看出两种倾向,才有了前面的口水仗,才有了删贴之举。我以为,用胆机者再开放一点,用石机着再宽容一点,回到对大天朗的热爱上来,这话题就能健康得继续下去,正所谓“求同存异”是也。·
(作者:朱锦春1 时间:2005-03-27 20:07:41)- “本人从2001年开始使用天朗GRF-TW音箱, 历经多次不同器材搭配....直至今日才认为将GRF的优缺点大致挖掘出来经历如下 : 第一期用麦景图C22复刻版前级+CANARY 301MK2 300B胆后级,人声甜美甚有磁性, 听二重奏三重奏或四重奏也算完美, 但人声口形偏大, 听大部头的交响乐则暴露许多不足....须知胆后级如果没有100W以上的输出功率, 想把天朗15"纸盆低音单元控制好.....我认为好难.......第二期用"BAT' VK-3I胆前级+CANARY 301MK2 300B胆后级, 整个音场深邃,分析力和乐器之间的分离度有了明显改善但仍然力水不足....第三期用 " BAT' VK-3i 胆前级 + MARK LEVISION 23.5后级, 整个音场深度,分析力和乐器之间的分离度有了较大改善, 离箱感和控制力好多了....... 直到去年我遇上"CELLO" PALETTE PRE-AMP之后,就中了CELLO的毒了(难於自拔), 整个音场深邃,分析力和乐器之间的分离度有了更明显改善 它让我更明白了什么叫中性,自然,透明....半年后我又将"CELLO" ENCORE 1M 欧 PRE-AMP娶回府上,用PALETTE PRE-AMP作EQ+ENCORE 1M 欧作前置放大+ MARK LEVISION 23.5后级...或者用PALETTE PRE-AMP作EQ+ENCORE 1M 欧 + MCLNTOSH MC-500 ...各位网上看倌....你能想象我现时的聆听心情吗....???...好极了.... 就象<<音响论坛>>刘汉盛主编所形容的那样"当你聆听音响有快感时,你的大脑会分泌出一种神秘的脑啡肽..... 这种愉快就象做爱那样的快感..........这就是我现时的聆听心情...... ”看得出你真是一个初烧者,什么都不懂,也许还有钱...........可是你充其量就是刚入门的器材发烧友.
呵呵,准备接砖头啦,哈哈。- “本人从2001年开始使用天朗GRF-TW音箱, 历经多次不同器材搭配....直至今日才认为将GRF的优缺点大致挖掘出来经历如下 : 第一期用麦景图C22复刻版前级+CANARY 301MK2 300B胆后级,人声甜美甚有磁性, 听二重奏三重奏或四重奏也算完美, 但人声口形偏大, 听大部头的交响乐则暴露许多不足....须知胆后级如果没有100W以上的输出功率, 想把天朗15"纸盆低音单元控制好.....我认为好难.......第二期用"BAT' VK-3I胆前级+CANARY 301MK2 300B胆后级, 整个音场深邃,分析力和乐器之间的分离度有了明显改善但仍然力水不足....第三期用 " BAT' VK-3i 胆前级 + MARK LEVISION 23.5后级, 整个音场深度,分析力和乐器之间的分离度有了较大改善, 离箱感和控制力好多了....... 直到去年我遇上"CELLO" PALETTE PRE-AMP之后,就中了CELLO的毒了(难於自拔), 整个音场深邃,分析力和乐器之间的分离度有了更明显改善 它让我更明白了什么叫中性,自然,透明....半年后我又将"CELLO" ENCORE 1M 欧 PRE-AMP娶回府上,用PALETTE PRE-AMP作EQ+ENCORE 1M 欧作前置放大+ MARK LEVISION 23.5后级...或者用PALETTE PRE-AMP作EQ+ENCORE 1M 欧 + MCLNTOSH MC-500 ...各位网上看倌....你能想象我现时的聆听心情吗....???...好极了.... 就象<<音响论坛>>刘汉盛主编所形容的那样"当你聆听音响有快感时,你的大脑会分泌出一种神秘的脑啡肽..... 这种愉快就象做爱那样的快感..........这就是我现时的聆听心情...... ”看得出你真是一个初烧者,什么都不懂,也许还有钱...........可是你充其量就是刚入门的器材发烧友.
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(作者:非典 时间:2005-03-27 21:45:59)- 图中应该是第一代grf的复刻板,粉磁同轴单元,倒相结构箱体,原装grf应该钢磁单元,背负号角箱体,听过原装grf,复刻可以填海
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(作者:我爱GRF 时间:2005-03-27 22:32:40)- 我也爱GRF,听的细节比人还多。
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Rogers乐爵士5/9
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我的Rogers乐爵士ls5/9终于到了。现在用菲利普951作转盘,金诗韵DAX-2解码。QUAD 405.2,感觉5/9的声底非常好,有很强的音乐表现力,初步听感很满意。现在想把5/9推出最高境界,那位老大有经验请多指教。
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(作者:LONGTJ 时间:2005-05-18 06:13:25)- 我已用5/9几年,国都405只能推出5成!我试过十几台功放,现用300B胆前级,2A3推挽胆后级至少推出9成!人声,弦乐无敌。13017391298
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(作者:非典 时间:2005-05-18 10:05:32)- 5/9市场一般有三款,最好的是钢琴漆版,其二是硬木皮,箱前带三点焊点调音的专业版,其三是箱前有两个旋钮调音的新版,新版又分多种木皮.新版和专业版我都玩过一段时间,专业版声音比新版好太多了,这从两者不同的二手价可看出,新版质量有点小问题,玩一两年会刷圈和边脱胶,当然有高手修理和懂得玩也没什么问题,你的951是第一个要换掉的东西,玩5/9应用胆机较理想,不要去计较它的缺点,它的中频太一流了,听弦乐,人声,古典己令很多天价箱惭愧.
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(作者:wanyc 时间:2005-05-18 11:30:45)- 从来没想在她的身上得到JBL的气势、DA的细腻。追求的就是她的那一份温文尔雅,那一份情感的表述、那一份让人投入音乐的勾人魅力。现在期望得到是在不影响现有魅力的情况下,低音的速度、力度再改善一点。高频的飘逸感也再增加那么一点点。我知道就这么一点点得来不易呀,因为我不想损失现在得到的那一种气质。
951一定是不能要了,改用什么转盘还请大家指教。- 从来没想在她的身上得到JBL的气势、DA的细腻。追求的就是她的那一份温文尔雅,那一份情感的表述、那一份让人投入音乐的勾人魅力。现在期望得到是在不影响现有魅力的情况下,低音的速度、力度再改善一点。高频的飘逸感也再增加那么一点点。我知道就这么一点点得来不易呀,因为我不想损失现在得到的那一种气质。
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(作者:麦天乐 时间:2005-05-18 13:22:16)- 我也刚买了一对乐爵士5/9卡农头的箱子,买它是因为经常去一个好朋友家里,他是乐爵士迷有两对5/9箱子我们经常一起听,中频是非常美的很真实,不然它不会成为乐爵士继LS3/5a后的另一大经典,我觉得拥有它很值得。
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(作者:wanyc 时间:2005-05-19 10:56:46)- 通过这几天的把玩,偶认为5/9既有3/5A的神韵,却又比3/5A更全面,播放大部头的作品也可以说是达到了极品级的水平,其气氛的营造能力更是许多贵价音箱所不及的。二手的价格也比3/5a贵不了太多,相对来说要好玩好多。而且5/9的存货量比3/5a要小很多,更显珍贵。
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(作者:寨主 时间:2005-05-21 10:22:53)- 这CD机好还是951好指教
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(作者:寨主 时间:2005-05-21 11:43:56)- 不知5/9专业版是多少欧,可否用单端el84摧,灵敏度多少?指教.